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I am looking for a baptism date for JAMES HILLS who was born 1808 possibly in Bedfordshire, I am kind of stuck as by other researchers his fathers surname was HILL.. But anyway, if anyone can find a baptism date and parents
for JAMES HILLS then that would be good!

is this the james you are looking for
1851

HILLS, James Head Married M 43 1808 Straw Dealer
Langford, Bedfordshire VIEW
HILLS, Hannah Wife Married F 42 1809 Straw Cutter
Clifton, Bedfordshire VIEW
HILLS, James Son M 15 1836 Farm Lab
Langford, Bedfordshire VIEW
HILLS, Thomas Son M 13 1838 Farm Lab
Langford, Bedfordshire VIEW
HILLS, Jesse Son M 10 1841 Straw Cutter
Langford, Bedfordshire VIEW
HILLS, Hannah Daughter F 6 1845 Platter
Langford, Bedfordshire VIEW
HILLS, Edward Son M 4 1847
Langford, Bedfordshire VIEW
HILLS, William Son M 1 1850
Langford, Bedfordshire VIEW
TANSLEY, Thomas Son-In-Law Widower M 25 1826 Rail Lab
Langford, Bedfordshire VIEW

Piece: 1753

Folio: 474

Page: 19

Registration District: Biggleswade

Civil Parish: Langford

Municipal Borough:

Address: The Pits, Langford

County: Bedfordshire
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a tree on ancestry has this
parents
Thomas Hills

Birth
1766
Langford, Bedfordshire, , England


1 source citation

Marriage to Sarah Pearson
1791 30 Apr Age: 25
Langford, Bedfordshire, , England

Death
1837 1 Apr Age: 71
Langford, Bedfordshire, , England

but the attached death doc says London ???

Sarah pearson


Birth
1771 3 Mar
Langford, Bedfordshire, , England



Marriage to Thomas Hills
1791 30 Apr Age: 20
Langford, Bedfordshire, , England

Death
1836 15 Feb Age: 64
Langford, Bedfordshire, , England

no documentation in support

you can buy langford cd here

http://www.parishchest.com/_Bedfordshire_Parish_Registers_A_M_on_CD__LID11737

Name: James Hills
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Hannah Cooper
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 24 Sep 1827
Event Place: Langford,Bedford,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M14868-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1279143
Reference ID:

https://familysearch.org/

@Reggie I HAVE BEEN USING THAT SITE, JEEZ

And to others, yes those are the correct individuals but I am still in need of a baptism for JAMES HILLS , his parents are supposedly THOMAS HILLS and SARAH PEARSON but when I look for a baptism for THOMAS HILLS, his name appears as THOMAS HILL

County Bedfordshire
Place Langford
Church St. Andrew
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 30 Apr 1791
GroomForename Thomas
GroomSurname HILLS
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode Langford
BrideForename Sarah
BrideSurname PEARSON
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Langford
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename
WitnessOneSurname
WitnessTwoForename
WitnessTwoSurname
Notes
FileNumber 1617

DJ, do you know about the freereg site? They have transcriptions on there for baptisms in Langford up until 1812 - these are the only ones for Hill or Hills. They all have parents Thomas and Sarah:

Record Type Baptism Date Surname Forename County Place Name Found As
1 Baptisms 14 Jan 1798 HILLS Rebecca Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname
2 Baptisms 27 May 1804 HILLS William Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname
3 Baptisms 27 May 1804 HILLS Mary Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname
4 Baptisms 26 May 1805 HILLS Samuel Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname

What evidence do you have that James's father was Thomas?

maybe a late baptism????

Name: James Hills
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 May 1819
Christening Place: Langford, Bedford, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Hills
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02808-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1279142
Reference ID: item 12 p 16

Yes, that may be possible.. A late baptism because JAMES HILLS shows up in the censuses and the age determines his birth year.. He may have been baptised late yes...

To retrieve the details of a specific record click on the number in the table below:
# Record Type Baptism Date Surname Forename County Place Name Found As
1 Baptisms 14 May 1796 HILLS Thomas Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname
2 Baptisms 14 May 1796 HILLS Edward Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname
3 Baptisms 14 Jan 1798 HILLS Rebecca Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname
4 Baptisms 27 May 1804 HILLS William Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname
5 Baptisms 27 May 1804 HILLS Mary Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname
6 Baptisms 26 May 1805 HILLS Samuel Bedfordshire Langford Father Surname



http://www.freereg.org.uk/

http://www.freecen.org.uk/

This baptism took place on the same day:

Name: Sarah Hills
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 30 May 1819
Christening Place: LANGFORD, BEDFORD, ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Hills
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14868-1
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1279142
Reference ID: 2:2GZQJKB

Looking at the baptisms that safc posted, it looks as if they tended to wait and have their children baptised together. William was 3 when he was baptised.

Name: William Larman
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Sarah Hills
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 27 Jul 1827
Event Place: Langford,Bedford,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M14868-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1279143
Reference ID:

Sarah Larman, "England and Wales Census, 1851"
Name: Sarah Larman
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Birthplace: Langford, Bedfordshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Schedule Type: Household

Sarah gives her YOB as 1808/9 which mean she was 17/18 in 1827; b 1819 she would have been too young to marry in 1827. I wonder if there has been an error in transcribing the year of the baptisms. You could try asking at your nearest Mormon FHC to view the film:

1861 England Census
Sarah Larman
Age:52
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1809
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:William Larman
Where born:Langford, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish:Langford

William Larman 56
Sarah Larman 52
Rebecca Larman 13
Sarah Ann Larman 9

County Bedfordshire
Place Langford
Church St. Andrew
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 02 Jan 1805
BaptismDate 26 May 1805
Forename William
Sex M
FatherForename Joseph
MotherForename Sarah
FatherSurname LAWMAN
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 1616

You are concerned he's recorded as HILL not HILLS. Your surname appears HILL - when did it change.

Wow, all the information is brilliant. Thanks!
It appears to be harder than I thought when it comes to dates of baptisms. So a lot of baptisms can't fully determine the birth dates!!
How would I view the registers?? Official Images?

Also to answer Penny's question,
ARTHUR HILL is the son of THOMAS HILLS (1838) who moved to Cardiff and changed his surname to HILL (that's how we are now HILL). But his father was named JAMES HILLS and his father appeared as THOMAS HILLS (1766) in a marriage record but his baptism appears as THOMAS HILL...