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Bob.......... have you googled Crockatany and Ballantine? Therer seems to be others searching for info....... just like this for an instance;

"Descendants of David Farquhar
He married Hester Ballantine, daughter of John Ballantine and Mary Anne Charles, on 1 Jun 1905 at Crockatanty, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland.

dbjohnston.faithweb.com/dfdes/dfdes0002.htm"


Dee x

John Ballantine married Mary Anne Charles 25th November 1858 Kildress C.O.I. Cookstown Co Tyrone.

John father's a Joseph
Mary Anne father's a Samuel

Children from the couple
William 1865 Gortin
Jane 1866 Gortin
Samuel 1869 Gortin
Mary Ann 1879 Gortin
Hester 1881 Gortin

Maura,

Could one of the Ballantine boys have married a Martha??? Just because she is on the marriage cert as a witness doesn't mean she was a Ballantine by birth... it could be by marriage???


Dee x

Can't find a marriage for a Ballantine & Martha that would fit, Martha could be a cousin.

Good thinking she could be........ just annoying that we can't pinpoint her.

Will do Dee.

Re valuation, this must be John Senior as a young man?
Bob

can you see anything on this marriage Maura?

Name: Martha Ballantine
Registration District: Omagh
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1915
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101263
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 253
Digital Folder Number: 4199365
Image Number: 00084



same area as mary and george Oliver married.

Dee x

Just sent the image Bob, also sent the valuation as well. Like you say I think this maybe her father???

Looks like there maybe a long history of ballantines from that area.

Dee x

Looks like we have family in Iowa!!!

Groom's Name: William Ballantine
Groom's Birth Date: 1873
Groom's Birthplace: Cookstown, Tyrone Co., Ireland
Groom's Age: 28
Bride's Name: Rosalie E. Kremien
Bride's Birth Date: 1883
Bride's Birthplace: Josephsruh Kr., Kolmas Prov., Posen, Germany
Bride's Age: 18
Marriage Date: 21 Feb 1901
Marriage Place: Union Tp., Crawford, Iowa
Groom's Father's Name: John Ballantine
Groom's Mother's Name: Mary Anne Charles
Bride's Father's Name: Michael Kremien
Bride's Mother's Name: Caroline Hase
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02566-3
System Origin: Iowa-EASy
Source Film Number: 1035130
Reference Number: Vol 2 Pg 23 Cn 2956

Groom's Name: G. A. Sleeper
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace: Vt
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Jennie Ballantine
Bride's Birth Date: 1870
Bride's Birthplace: Ireland
Bride's Age: 23
Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1893
Marriage Place: Denison, Crawford, Ia
Groom's Father's Name: Azro Sleeper
Groom's Mother's Name: Ellen Goodell
Bride's Father's Name: John Ballantine
Bride's Mother's Name: Mary Ann Charles
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M58781-2
System Origin: Iowa-VR
Source Film Number: 1035130
Reference Number: 2:3BP1461

Groom's Name: James Ballentine
Groom's Birth Date: 1875
Groom's Birthplace: Tyrone, Ireland
Groom's Age: 25
Bride's Name: Sarah Brown
Bride's Birth Date: 1881
Bride's Birthplace: Tyrone, Ireland
Bride's Age: 19
Marriage Date: 12 Apr 1900
Marriage Place: Hanover Tp., Crawford, Iowa
Groom's Father's Name: John Ballentine
Groom's Mother's Name: Mary A. Charles
Bride's Father's Name: William Brown
Bride's Mother's Name: Maggie Ballentine
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02566-3
System Origin: Iowa-EASy
Source Film Number: 1035130
Reference Number: Vol 2 Pg 14 Cn 2836

You've been busy batmansdaughter, the marriage for Martha not coming up on the site I have a sub too, but it is coming up on http://tyrone.rootsireland.ie/map.php her father is a john and the spouse a Thomas, but there is a Martha in the census with her father John 1901 aged 13

Thanks Maura.

That's me for the evening I'm afraid....... kids, hubby and dogs need food!


Dee xx

Dear all,
This is all great. Once again I will need to digest.

Off to fire up the barbie in sunny Dundee!
Bob

Bob in answer to your query re Oaghmonicroy
It was at the time in question a Townland of some 750 acres in the Civil Parish of Bodoney Lower..Poor Law Union of Gortin... Barony of Strabane Upper
Crockatanty was a Townland of some 470 acres..same CP and PLU

So although you have BMD listed for Gortin etc the family may have come from any of the Townlands within the Civil Parish/PLU.
There were 47 Townlands in the CP of Bodoney Lower.

Crockantanty was in Bodoney Upper (1796)
The Ballentines were listed there at the time...but were to be found in other areas also.

Bob...Just to give you an idea of some of the Ballentines..1830 Tithes.. Bodoney Lower

BALENTINE
John
Trenamadon

BALENTINE
William
Trenamadon

BALENTINE
Isabella
Trenamadon

BALLANTINE
George
Brackass

BALLANTINE
George, Jun.
Brackass

BALLANTINE
George
Aughminacroy [Oaghmonicroy]

BALLANTINE
William
Crockatanty

BALLANTINE
John
Crockatanty

BALLANTINE
Joseph
Crockatanty

BALLANTINE
Robert
Aughminacroy [Oaghmonicroy]

BALLANTINE
William
Aughminacroy [Oaghmonicroy]

Hi Eringobragh1916,
Thanks for this additional information.

My feeling is we have got back to an extended family of Ballantines living in the Crockantanty area. Many John's and many farmers. Although from your last post there was only one John living in Crockatanty.

I think that's as close as we will get with the records on line.

It may take someone who has original family records (family Bible or other records) to take this forward.

Anyway, the person who asked me to look for the origins of her birth mother's family will be very happy to trace back to this township in Tyrone.

cheers
Bob

Bob....The tithes were paid by the Landholder so it may be there were other John's in the area but were not the actual Landholder...
I am not sure exactly what the person your helping wants
Is it just to determine Co.Tyrone origins ?
Have they any primary source info.regarding the Ballentines and Olivers....

Hi,
The person's mother was the daughter of George Oliver and Mary Ballantine - Mary Agnes Oliver.

However, Mary Agnes was brought up by George Olivers elder sister, Agnes, as Mary Oliver (Ballantine) died in 1911 (2 years after marrying George).

So, everything about the Ballantines is new information.

Bob
PS see my new thread on George Oliver in Ireland.

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birth: Jul - Sep 1910 — Omagh
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence:
parents:
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
name: Mary Agnes Oliver
registration district: Omagh
event type: BIRTHS
registration quarter and year: Jul - Sep 1910
volume number: 2
page number: 225
digital folder number: 4194692